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Clogyrnach

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:27 pm
by Catherine Edmunds
Many thanks to Mike Daniels for introducing me to this beautiful form. It's one of the old Welsh odes, and if you google you'll no doubt find them all, but this one is probably the easiest: a sestet stanza having lines with counts of eight, eight, five, five, three and three syllables respectively. The two 2 syllable lines may be written as one 6 syllable line if desired. The rhyme scheme is aabbba. A diagram of one stanza would therefore look like this:
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xxxxxxxa
xxxxb
xxxxb
xxb
xxa

Here's my first (and I'm sure it won't be the last) attempt at the form:

dusk

trees of rusty timber take leave
while wooden sheep wander this eve
by willows, some sleep
counting forests deep
waters weep
whispers weave

raven flies by on wings of night
wisps of mist rising caught in flight
sink now, drink with eyes
embrowned in disguise
as fear dies
in faint light

running together, follow me
past reeds rustling, red chestnut tree
follow past knowing
fleet river flowing
bestowing
dusk on thee

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:56 pm
by Louis P. Burns aka Lugh
Thanks for this Delph and Mike.

Cool poem :) ...

I'll try and write one tonight.

Nice one :D ...

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:48 am
by spacecadet
Not quite as satanic as sestinas. This one looks viable and has possibilities of great beauty. A Welsh form you say? I feel another poem about Tonypandee coming on...... (did I ever post the last one here?)

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:44 pm
by Louis P. Burns aka Lugh
delph_ambi wrote:Many thanks to Mike Daniels for introducing me to this beautiful form. It's one of the old Welsh odes, and if you google you'll no doubt find them all, but this one is probably the easiest: a sestet stanza having lines with counts of eight, eight, five, five, three and three syllables respectively. The two 2 syllable lines may be written as one 6 syllable line if desired. The rhyme scheme is aabbba. A diagram of one stanza would therefore look like this:
xxxxxxxa
xxxxxxxa
xxxxb
xxxxb
xxb
xxa


Sorry Delph. I'm confused by this. I have underlined where you say "two 2 syllable lines" because I don't see these in the example. Shouldn't that be 'two 3 syllable lines'?

Then again, I didn't get much sleep lastnight and may not be reading your guidelines for this form correctly...

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:23 am
by Mike Daniels
I think that should read as the two lines of three syllables can be written as one line of six syllables...as you suggest...

Some of these celtic forms are hold real terrors for me. I keep trying to write them and get nowhere - well nowhere that I'm prepared to go public with as yet.

(The Irish ones in particular are little beasts.)

Mike