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Lift The 18+ Cert on; This Is England by Shane Meadows...

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:07 am

Lift The 18+ Cert on; This Is England by Shane Meadows

    If you haven't already been to see; This Is England by Shane Meadows, I would urge that you take the opportunity to do so and soon. This film is a powerful representation of 80's Britain (England) revealing how a group of friends get torn apart by racism and focusing on the story of one young lad; Shaun played by Thomas Turgoose, whose dad has been killed out in the Falklands.

    Shaun is being bullied at school, is grieving the loss of his father, can't communicate properly with his mother and becomes friends with some local skinheads; Woody played by Joseph Gilgun, Lol played by Vicky McClure and Milky played by Andrew Shim who all take him under their wing and show him a good time. It's important to point out that none of these characters are in any way racist and indeed are from various backgrounds.

    There are some very touching scenes where the characters open up and explain their different perspectives. All of which set the scene before things change for the worse with the arrival of Combo played by Stephen Graham. Graham's performance throughout This Is England is both breath-taking and harrowing. I think it fair enough to say that this performance should earn him a few awards further down the line...

    So, here we have a UK film from the man behind Dead Man's Shoes (2004) and it's getting censored despite being an educational journey through bullying and racism and how they damage everything in their path. Censors like Sue Clark of the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) say it is because of the use of bad language and scenes of violence but venues like; The Watershed Media Centre in Bristol have overthrown this decision and brought the age of viewing down to 15+. To read more about this click here.

    I believe the public should be allowed to decide for themselves whether; This Is England should have an 18+ certificate slapped on it because it is an absolute masterpiece in film-making and social commentary. Other great features in; This Is England include the continuity, costumes, settings and superb soundtrack featuring a lot of classic Ska and Reggae tunes that add to the overall authenticity of the piece...

    This Is England is in cinemas now...
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0793532/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0334318/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419677/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQD7vd3B5A0
http://www.watershed.co.uk/cgi-bin/WebO ... rshed.woa/
http://www.shanemeadows.co.uk/
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Shane Meadows on The Culture Show

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:33 pm

Shane Meadows on The Culture Show
    revealing his experiences and thoughts on his latest film; This Is England.

    This clip also includes discussion about the controversial 18+ certificate.
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Is this fawcking England?

Postby Salvador Oria » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:20 pm

Prizewinner film "This is England" directed by Shane Meadows shows a few racist scenes perpetrated by skinheads against "Pakis" without remorse. I own probably the only copy of this film in Argentina because I asked a friend of mine to bring it for me from England, and I wondered why the local distributors never had it on their lists.

Watch the film and you'll guess why. One other possibility is that it is a "too English" film, whose purpose is not really understandable by outsiders (like me?).

I only hope this is NOT England nowadays; it shows a derelict middle class that wouldn't care for the education of their young people who slowly turn into useless, junky, filthy, violent and corrupted vagrant squats that have nothing to do but to drink plenty of alcohol, smoke reefers, attack foreigners, destroy houses, wreck motorcars, scribble on walls and other "white power" entertainments, if we don't mention the murder of Whitey.

Or at least that is the message that I read between lines. I only watched it once on the past week-end; perhaps a second or third time might help to lessen a bit the bad impression I've got of this really shocking film which I regard well classified as 18+. The intersped Malvinas-Falklands 1982 conflict images alluding Shaun's father, a dead hero there, are perhaps too many and not too within the film's scope.
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Re: Is this fawcking England?

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:47 pm

Argie wrote:Prizewinner film "This is England" directed by Shane Meadows shows a few racist scenes perpetrated by skinheads against "Pakis" without remorse. I own probably the only copy of this film in Argentina because I asked a friend of mine to bring it for me from England, and I wondered why the local distributors never had it on their lists.

Hi Salvador :)

Great to see you back here on Sensitize. You're right when you say that the film has racist content, but the director/writer - Shane Meadows was addressing the sad history of racism in England/UK and the era in which he grew up (early 80's). There was a terrible amount of racist crime going on at that time. To be honest, racism is on the rise again now with attacks on Asians/Muslims due to the recent conflicts with Afghanistan and Iraq. I accept that there are extemists within the Islamic community who do need to be dealt with, but random attacks on ethnic citizens will only fan the flames of hatred and draw more and more young people into conflict. That's what Shane Meadows is saying with This Is England. He too sees hatred, ignorance and racism raising its ugly head once more.

Argie wrote:Watch the film and you'll guess why. One other possibility is that it is a "too English" film, whose purpose is not really understandable by outsiders (like me?).

That's debatable though. Margaret Thatcher's government committed troops to an illegal and ridiculous 'war' with Argentina over the Falkland Islands and in doing so, exported mindless butchery, hatred and savagery abroad, to the shores of your land.

The central character (Shaun) in This Is England lost his father in that 'war'. On his journey of discovery in this film he firstly turns to hate crimes as a reaction to the grief he felt because he believed his father died at the hands of people of a different culture/race. However, as the film moves on, he comes around to the realisation that hatred is wrong and England (back then) was corrupt. He sees that his father died for nothing.

The scene where he throws the British/English flag into the sea while the cover version of; Please, Please, Please. Let Me Get What I Want (originally by The Smiths) is playing on the filmscore, summed up his transition away from hatred and towards a hopeful future in my opinion.

Argie wrote:I only hope this is NOT England nowadays; it shows a derelict middle class that wouldn't care for the education of their young people who slowly turn into useless, junky, filthy, violent and corrupted vagrant squats that have nothing to do but to drink plenty of alcohol, smoke reefers, attack foreigners, destroy houses, wreck motorcars, scribble on walls and other "white power" entertainments, if we don't mention the murder of Whitey.

Like I said earlier, This Is England is a depiction of England back in the early 80's under Thatcher's reign of terror. There still are, and probably always will be, pockets of hate in society. Addressing and confronting it is the most effective way of controlling it though.

Argie wrote:Or at least that is the message that I read between lines. I only watched it once on the past week-end; perhaps a second or third time might help to lessen a bit the bad impression I've got of this really shocking film which I regard well classified as 18+. The intersped Malvinas-Falklands 1982 conflict images alluding Shaun's father, a dead hero there, are perhaps too many and not too within the film's scope.

Yeah. This Is England is worth watching a few time Sal. You say you think the 18+ certificate is justified, but couldn't it be viewed that a film that tackles hatred and racism, should be made available to the very people (young people) who can, if not monitored, fall in with bad crowds and become racist criminals?
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'bout fawking 1980's England

Postby Salvador Oria » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:10 pm

Thank you boss for your comments. If you don't mind I'll copy here a few other ideas I pointed out by private e-mail to you today. This will explain, for the time being, a bit more of my present prejudice to our site readers, in line with your commentary.

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Bad companies around a lonely boy, picked by his school elder colleagues served a path to his change of pure boyish conduct into a violent, adult-like, attitude; a sign of the times. Shaun's acting is very short of absolute perfection, bearing in mind his age, and to my humble view he should be given a special personal award for it.

Perhaps I need to watch the film once or twice again to diminish the bad feelings that this powerfulm film raised on me. But then, I agree that it is a film worth to watch, especially by parents with school-age children.
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I might add that I wouldn't allow minors to watch the film, unless 16+ and accompanied by both their parents. Minors of such age ought to have instant advice should they need it, and their parents may have to explain the pros and cons of each situation to clarify meanings.

Fortunately 11 year-old Shaun's tit-sucking - or other petting situations - was not shown. This is a clear signal of the director's good taste...Thumbs up for him!

Argie
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were my refuge when annoyed - my dearest pleasure when free."

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