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Copy of message of compaint to MSN Complaints 16.09.06

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:55 pm

18:15 16/09/2006

13 Rivercourt Apartments
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LONDONDERRY
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c/tact (UK) 028 71364768. 16th September, 2006.

I have contacted MSN before about the group MSN The Pleasure Dome;a home for writers on; http://groups.msn.com/ThePleasuredomeah ... tpage.msnw

I am now contacting you again to stipulate that I have been banned from this community yet they are continuing to display some of my intellectual copyright material. This is despite my requesting that they do not. Here is an example of this abuse and theft;- http://groups.msn.com/ThePleasuredomeah ... 3443353884

Add to this that I contacted you several months ago from my yahoo account on;- rebelyell4u04@yahoo.co.uk ticket number;- RE: SRX1006588109ID and reported that I had been the victim of fraud (financial and intellectual copyright) via this community and its sister site on; http://www.dome2.com/ and that this url is displayed on The MSN site administrated and managed by Suzi Pritchard. Nothing conclusive was done by you to resolve this.

I have had to contact both the Police in England and Northern Ireland as well as various mental health charities and organisations based in the UK including Mike Bowen of UKCP and Josephine Teague of N-SHAP to report several criminal activities and illegal therapies stemming from both of the communities listed in this message.

I have also reported Suzi Pritchard to the Rackspace Group concerning financial fraud via the Coventry and Warwickshire Co-Op Development Agency and a man called Kevin Fennel. I have also been in contact with the Fraud Department Manager of Co-operative Bank in Manchester. I have logged complaints to both N-SHAP and UKCP concerning a man known as Fraser Duncan who is advertising as a psychotherapist but displaying phone numbers that are not his (I can back this up with recorded telephone conversations to one of the numbers he provided) and he is exercising illegal therapies on vulnerable members of the public via your communities.

Please do not dismiss this message out-of-hand. Failure by MSN at this late stage to take appropriate action will be viewed as an accessory crime and I will seek compensation from you through the courts. I work within media and have no problem whatsoever revealing all that I have been subjected to. Kindly remove The Pleasure Dome from your networks with effect immediately, or face the embarrassment of being accessories to their crimes.

With thanks for your kind attention in this matter.
I am and remain.

Yours sincerely.
Louis P. Burns aka Lugh / BOLD
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Postby the_leander » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:32 pm

*facepalms*'


Which bit of, keep to the works in question, the links to those works and what you want doing with them did I not make clear?

Also, unless convicted, the word "alledged" should be applied by the trowl-ful if you do not wish to make yourself liable.

And threatening MSN? Unless you're a lawyer, they're going to bin that letter before even finishing it.

*shakes his head in disbelief*

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Re: Copy of message of compaint to MSN Complaints 16.09.06

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:19 pm

Lugh wrote:Please do not dismiss this message out-of-hand. Failure by MSN at this late stage to take appropriate action will be viewed as an accessory crime and I will seek compensation from you through the courts. I work within media and have no problem whatsoever revealing all that I have been subjected to. Kindly remove The Pleasure Dome from your networks with effect immediately, or face the embarrassment of being accessories to their crimes.


Alan, everything I have stated in the above message can be backed up. So trowls are not necessary at all. The only thing I am 'liable' of is telling the truth. To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a court anywhere who could take action (legally) against me.

At no point during that message did I threaten MSN. I advised them of my legal rights and clearly pointed out their legal obligations should they wish to remain blameless here.

I think what you're not acknowledging is that this has gone on for over 2 years now. The management of both Dome communities have assumed some sort of moral high ground and see themselves as beyond both civil and criminal law.

Should this kill me, or make more ill than it has done already, I will fight them tooth and nail for my right to work free of their criminal and fraudulent activities.

If MSN don't co-operate, then that's their misfortune when it all gets linked on the Upstate Renegade Productions domain.
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Re: Copy of message of compaint to MSN Complaints 16.09.06

Postby the_leander » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:48 pm

Lugh wrote:
Alan, everything I have stated in the above message can be backed up. So trowls are not necessary at all. The only thing I am 'liable' of is telling the truth. To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a court anywhere who could take action (legally) against me.


So Fraiser Duncun has been taken to court and found guilty of illegally operating as a therepist? Didn't think so.

Until that day comes, I would urge you to use the words Alledged and or suspected. Anything else will leave you liable, also: Be under absolutely no illusion, there are plenty of courts who would take up such a case, they may or may not win, but the case would be taken up.

Lugh wrote:At no point during that message did I threaten MSN. I advised them of my legal rights and clearly pointed out their legal obligations should they wish to remain blameless here.

Lugh wrote:Please do not dismiss this message out-of-hand. Failure by MSN at this late stage to take appropriate action will be viewed as an accessory crime and I will seek compensation from you through the courts.



Thats a threat, one which if not made by a lawyer will get your message binned.

Lugh wrote:I think what you're not acknowledging is that this has gone on for over 2 years now. The management of both Dome communities have assumed some sort of moral high ground and see themselves as beyond both civil and criminal law.


Dude, I don't give a shit how long it's been. What I do care about is you not hanging yourself by your own petard and, as in the case of this message, getting nowhere doing it.

I do not make such statements lightly. I'm saying this because I want you to win this, doing it your way will do nothing at best, and major legal troubles at worst.

Lugh wrote:Should this kill me, or make more ill than it has done already, I will fight them tooth and nail for my right to work free of their criminal and fraudulent activities.


Have they been found guilty of either of those crimes? Again, didn't think so. You want things to happen, this I get. Writing the above will not get you the result you want.

Lugh wrote:If MSN don't co-operate, then that's their misfortune when it all gets linked on the Upstate Renegade Productions domain.


No offence, but Microsoft are one of the largest companies on the face of the planet, their annual turnover is similar to that of several of the larger sub saharan countries.

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Re: Copy of message of compaint to MSN Complaints 16.09.06

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:52 pm

the_leander wrote:So Fraiser Duncun has been taken to court and found guilty of illegally operating as a therepist? Didn't think so.

Until that day comes, I would urge you to use the words Alledged and or suspected. Anything else will leave you liable, also: Be under absolutely no illusion, there are plenty of courts who would take up such a case, they may or may not win, but the case would be taken up.


Using words like 'alledged' or 'suspected' are cool if it's in the third person. Since it's in the first person, namely me, nothing is alledged or suspected. It is fact. He has assaulted me albeit only with words on a screen but his cohorts on the Dome communities have stolen my work and have defrauded me of money. I have email back-ups of him claiming to be working with the approval of UKCP as well. Something that Mike Bowen of UKCP states is not the case.

Lugh wrote:At no point during that message did I threaten MSN. I advised them of my legal rights and clearly pointed out their legal obligations should they wish to remain blameless here.

Lugh wrote:Please do not dismiss this message out-of-hand. Failure by MSN at this late stage to take appropriate action will be viewed as an accessory crime and I will seek compensation from you through the courts.



the_leander wrote:Thats a threat, one which if not made by a lawyer will get your message binned.

Let them. It's more fuel on a fire started by people who abuse visitors and good practising users of MSN sites. Even if they bin it, the point has been made and eventually, the admin and management of the Dome communities will be seen for what they are - plagerists...

Lugh wrote:I think what you're not acknowledging is that this has gone on for over 2 years now. The management of both Dome communities have assumed some sort of moral high ground and see themselves as beyond both civil and criminal law.


the_leander wrote:Dude, I don't give a shit how long it's been. What I do care about is you not hanging yourself by your own petard and, as in the case of this message, getting nowhere doing it.

I do not make such statements lightly. I'm saying this because I want you to win this, doing it your way will do nothing at best, and major legal troubles at worst.


Thanks Alan. Apologies if I have come across as brash in all of this, but it seems to be a case of them not letting things go. Everytime I take a step forward they put the fucking boot in. Seeing my work on their community this morning made me so angry it took me ages to calm down. This is making me ill. If they are interested in moving on and putting this behind us all. Then all they have to do is release my work, never display it again and compensate me for the hassles I have gone through. It is they who have a problem with truth and fairplay. Not me.

Lugh wrote:Should this kill me, or make more ill than it has done already, I will fight them tooth and nail for my right to work free of their criminal and fraudulent activities.


the_leander wrote:Have they been found guilty of either of those crimes? Again, didn't think so. You want things to happen, this I get. Writing the above will not get you the result you want.


Isn't the refund cheque, from a source (CWCDA) who have stated (recorded) that they have nothing to do with Suzi Pritchard or Dome 2 Ltd, proof of liability?

Lugh wrote:If MSN don't co-operate, then that's their misfortune when it all gets linked on the Upstate Renegade Productions domain.


the_leander wrote:No offence, but Microsoft are one of the largest companies on the face of the planet, their annual turnover is similar to that of several of the larger sub saharan countries.


Would it not be in their interests to address all that is going on via the MSN Dome site? Surely they don't need bad press?

Anyway. Thanks for your feedback Alan. One final point I'll make is this. What has happened and is happening to me via the Dome communities affects many other people in similar situations. If all this leads to is MSN arranging a way in which people can remove their own material prior to leaving their communities. Then something will have been achieved...
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