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Defining Censorship...

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:14 pm

Defining Censorship...
By Louis P. Burns aka Lugh © 2008. All rights reserved.

I would be very interested in members of Sensitize © participating in this discussion or possibly debate with an aim to clearly defining censorship and all that it is or represents. So, if any of you have ever felt yourselves silenced by a larger group because you hold or believe in a different view on any topic you care to mention, this may be the very thread for you to direct any opinions or thoughts you may have on the matter. The aim of this thread on Sensitize © is to explore all that censorship is in a friendly and productive way so try and keep insults to a minimum. That does not mean you cannot argue or express anger at continuing censorship if it frustrates you or if you have been on the recieving end of censorship. The point here being that you may have a valid point that you are addressing. It is worth stating that this does not mean you can make threats of violence towards other people posting to here without my asking you to clarify what you mean.

Censorship can take many forms. You may be an artist, filmaker or writer who rather than gaining support and recognition for your craft, skills and work have been told it is too controversial therefore won't be getting displayed, published or reviewed. You could have been a political prisoner living under a military regime or in a government state of oppression and jailed for nothing more than asking why there are oppressive measures in place. You might have been a combattant against such military regimes and been imprisoned for nothing more than self-defence. Perhaps you are a female who has been treated differently or denied access to equality because the males around you have decided that no matter how individual or talented you are, you are still a woman and must behave in a way they believe women should. You may be a bisexual, gay, lesbian or transgendered person who has been shunned in society for simply expressing yourself or your love for your partner. You might have questioned or spoken out against a religious doctrine and been silenced for it under the crazy notion that your 'god' might be offended. You might be someone from an ethnic group or race who has been turned down for employment because the manager believes your working in their environment may annoy or infuriate the rest of the workforce. I'm almost certain that as this thread develops and censorship is discussed other examples will come into view.

Currently there are massive campaigns against the wars with Afghanistan and Iraq. People have been kidnapped from these countries and flown, under a system known as 'extraordinary rendition', to American detention centres and prisons like Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. They have been battered, beaten, denied access to legal representation, force-fed, murdered, shackled in chains and tortured by intelligence officers and soldiers because they have become the suspects of religious extremism or fanaticism against the British and U.S. administration and governments since the 9/11 attacks in New York. It may be a fair comment at this point to say that neither Afghanistan or Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, but George W. Bush needed re-elected and they became a convenient target in his campaign to be re-elected and his contempt for anything non - American and used to boost his 'popularity'. He truly is the figurehead of censorship and neo/new fascism in the world and an exceedingly dangerous dictator. Interestingly enough, he too uses censorship to darken the names of anyone opposed to him and one clear example that springs immediately to mind is or was the former leader of Iraq, Saddam Hussein. Another would be Osama Bin Laden.

Censorship is nothing new. The British under the Conservative government led by the war criminal Margaret Thatcher in the latter part of the 20th century enforced a media blackout on anyone identifying as or representing Irish Republicans. In effect her government silenced over one third of Northern Ireland's population and perhaps all of the Irish Republic's population simply because she thought they were a danger to all things 'British.' So censorship is a tool used by those 'in power' to maintain their power.

Before this thread develops I would like to acknowledge an activist, civil and human rights campaigner, comedian and author. His name is Mark Thomas and he has worked tirelessly to address and overthrow many of the liberties censorship has destroyed or set about ruining. Up until the summer of last year I was an active member of his online forum sited here; http://www.markthomasinfo.com/forum/log ... efault.asp and topics like censorship were discussed by several members, myself included. Whether Mark has any control over the content on the forum or the members' posting to it isn't as yet clear to me but the administrator, a man called Jeff Jenkins aka Plucker kicked me out for daring to insinuate that another member was behaving like a representative of the English nationalist, fascist and racist British political party known as the BNP. The BNP are affiliated to Combat 18 and the National Front both of whom are terrorist groups who have been involved in several hate crimes against anyone non - British. I'm not going to deny that I did say a member on the forum was behaving like a member of the BNP, but it was after that same member implied that I was a terrorist. I'm sure anyone from Ireland, especially Northern Ireland where I come from, who lived under the brutal military regime of Margaret Thatcher will know that being called a terrorist is perhaps the most offensive thing that could be said about them. The anger in me about all of this spilled over on to the Mark Thomas mailing list or the 'List', and I was further subjected to more of the same and by several other people, some of whom may have been members of the forum. It is however highly important to point out that Mark Thomas and his crew are activists with a very unique approach to and brand of campaigning. They carry out publicity stunts and use the media to highlight injustices like censorship while ridiculing authoritarian doctrines or dictatorships. They are also well aware that I am a trained performer and community arts activist, and possibly thought I would run with them in a campaign to address the entire nature of censorship. At least, I sincerely hope this is the case and I was not really on the recieving end of censorship, fascism or racism, because that would mean my having to make it all public knowledge including the email exchanges and very possibly ruin every good deed Mark and his crew have ever done. So Mark, if you ever get to read this or wish to comment, can you please clarify that what happened to me was one of you and your crew's pranks / stunts and that none of it was meant to do harm but was an exercise and exploration in defining censorship? Thanks...

under occupation
By Louis P. Burns aka Lugh © 2008. All rights reserved.

sometimes i still wonder about it all
the news reports on the television
poor souls shot dead while resisting arrest
or escaping the menacing clutch of police
who all too frequently discharged weapons
rather than calm or pacify people
a suspect device found by kids at play
defused or made safe, whatever that meant
doors booted in by british soldiers at night
folk we knew dragged away for questioning
some jailed for years or never seen again
tears rolling down the faces of their mothers
    hunger strikes, blanket protests, shit on walls
    media blackouts, censorship, chaos, death.
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Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:54 pm

Do any of our literary members have a creative work about censorship that they would like to share?

Cheers :) ...
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Update: Censorship at the Mark Thomas Info website

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:19 pm

Update: Censorship at the Mark Thomas Info website
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On the Mark Thomas Info website's homepage sited here there are hyperlinks to their forum sited here and one to their favourite websites or links page sited here. On that webpage there is a banner/picture link to Irrepressible Info which is an external site from anything to do with the previous 3 webpages but is part of an Amnesty International campaign. Amnesty International through the Irrepressible Info campaign aim to allow people a voice on external websites and free from military or other oppressive forces that attempt to censor or silence them.

The Irrepressible Info campaign appealed directly to me as a writer but, and it's a big 'but'; I find it somewhat sickening that I discovered this link through the Mark Thomas Info website given how the forum administrators of that website, a man known to me as Jeff Jenkins aka Plucker and another known to me as Simon Brickhill aka Psikottix + certain other regulars posters on there actually behaved. Both of these administrators are/were members of Sensitize © and at any time they are welcome to sign into here and explain why I was banned from their forum last year. They may even be in a position to explain why I have also recently been denied access to post to the Mark Thomas Mailing List as recently as 16 days ago.

Alan Fisher aka the_leander was also a member on Sensitize © until I booted the sickening little slag. As was Joanne Chapman aka jo / Pino. These two individuals in particular seemed to think it ok to accuse me (on the Mark Thomas Info website forum) of the very serious crime of terrorism. Another went as far as saying I personally called him and his family murderers simply because he comes from a military / naval or 'services' background and because I spoke out about a clip on YouTube that revealed some British soldiers brutally beating some young kids in Basra, Iraq. I most certainly did not call him or his family members 'murderers' and I challenge him to reveal any evidence he may think he has to the contrary for example links to pages or screenshots of pages on the Mark Thomas Info forum where they should exist. As for jo, she's just a lippy bigot, but even she is welcome to explain her offensive accusations / actions towards me. Not only are they welcome to post any comment explaining any of this, but other members of both the forum and Mark Thomas Mailing List are welcome to join Sensitize © and give their account of why they either joined in on the attacks or why many of them (good and honourable) kept out of the whole situation? I can, if called upon present several examples of some of the nastier emails I recieved to my main Gmail account from Alan as well as many others from people who lumped themselves together with him through misguided friendship in some instances, and then abused me further and derided almost every post I made, both to the forum and mailing list. They can scream 'Data Protection Act' until they are blue in the face. Two points on that:

    1) To get anywhere legally they would have to admit these emails (which I encountered via the Mark Thomas Mailing List) exist and that they are familiar with or sent these same offensive emails and continued, despite being asked not to, or to explain themselves and their offensive (indeed fascist) comments by other subscribers of/to the Mark Thomas Mailing List. In doing so of course they would incidently reveal themselves to be guilty of the more serious crimes of cyber-bullying / and possibly cyber-hate towards anyone with an opposing perspective or voice against the British army/government or its continued brutality around the world (well documented).

    2) I identify as an Irish citizen/person. I am not subject to the same ridiculous British laws governing them and I am prepared to 'ride-the-storm-out on this point.
But, to be fair, I won't quote any of these offensive emails for now which only actually become crimes of any sort by me if I quote them innacurately, therefore libel.

I also wish to bring this to the attention of Amnesty International who I hope in turn will address / investigate the matter. My reasons apart from being a published and respected writer both among my peers in England, Ireland and America and recently acknowledged in a book soon to be released in the UK are the obvious anxieties, frustrations and to a certain extent the emotional pain I have had to endure at the hands of a few bigots and censors who frequently derided and insulted me, either on the forum which was fully endorsed and approved of by the Mark Thomas Info forum's administrator; Jeff Jenkins aka Plucker (he did nothing to stop it), or the Mark Thomas Mailing List. The catalyst and my civil/human rights to speak out against oppressive military regimes like the British army + their various governments over the years were breached several times. My requesting Amnesty International intervene here has been inspired by this;-

http://www.amnesty.ie/amnesty/live/iris ... page=15310

and this;-

http://www.amnesty.ie/amnesty/live/iris ... page=15310

Both of those links are easily accessed if one chooses to through the Irrepressible Info link on the Links pages of the Mark Thomas Info website and are about Irish writers and their bid to address creatively; the dangers of censorship and breaches of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

The second link is to; Irish poet, writer and winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature - Seamus Heaney's submission called - Poetic Redress. Here is a quote from it and I apologise sincerely if I have broken any copyright laws but this is important to writers everywhere and especially any poor writer who thinks Mark Thomas can help break the deadlock of censorship:

Seamus Heaney on Amnesty International's website - Poetic Redress wrote:Flouted though the Articles have been and continue to be, their vulnerability should perhaps be regarded as an earnest of their ultimate value. If, for example, an effort were to be made to enforce them by the exercise of military power - as in the effort to enforce "democracy" on Iraq - it would not only end in failure but would discredit utterly the very concept of human rights. They would be stigmatised as the attributes of an imperium rather than an inherent endowment of the species.

It is this vulnerable yet spiritually inviolate quality which makes them attractive not only to the wronged and the oppressed of the Earth, but to writers and poets as well. The Universal Declaration is not a sure-fire panacea for the world's ills; it is more geared to effect what I once called "the redress of poetry" than to intervene like a superpower. This idea of redress I discovered first in Simone Weil's book, Gravity and Grace , where she observes that if we know the way society is unbalanced, we must do what we can to add weight to the lighter side of the scale. The Universal Declaration, it seems to me, adds this kind of weight and contributes thereby to the maintenance of an equilibrium - never entirely achieved - between the rights and wrongs.

Writers and poets are also capable of adding this kind of weight, as will be evident in the work of contributors to the series which this newspaper is organising in the weeks ahead. I expect, however, that when they are faced with the direct speech of the Declaration, many of them will proceed indirectly. They too will want to conjure up work that functions as a counterweight to the given actuality of the world. The writings they place in the scale may only be imagined, but if the imagining is credible, if it persuades us to suspend our disbelief, it will be part of the redress that human dignity, human rights, human reason, human consciousness all desire and deserve.

It is also a fact, however, that when it comes to creating work in support of a morally laudable cause or in response to an uplifting theme, writers and poets face a difficulty peculiar to their calling. They are not like speakers at a podium or preachers in a pulpit. Because of the artistic imperative they obey, they must do more than utter a commendable sentiment. They must make a thing of words, construct "a verbal contraption".

It is not enough for creative writers to be what Osip Mandelstam once called "purveyors of the paraphrasable meaning", even if they happen to be paraphrasing the Universal Declaration; not enough merely to repeat what Joyce called "the big words", even words like "dignity" and "conscience"; not enough to have the will doing the work of the imagination. Some kind of turn or twist or swerve, some shift in the mind or the medium has to occur, some little startle of insight or originality that may prompt the composition of a short lyric or the invention of an entire world - as in Animal Farm ."


Judging from this, and my own identity as an activist, human rights campaigner and writer, it would appear I have been banned, censored and frequently insulted by people on the Mark Thomas Info website forum and Mailing List because I spoke out about British soldiers beating up children in their own country* (Iraq) and drew a parallel with that and how they behaved for years here in Northern Ireland. In effect I have been punished for being humanitarian. It would appear only people identifying as 'British' can speak out about such butchery on the Mark Thomas Info forum. Anyone non-British can't. That is fascism and indeed censorship, possibly racist as well.

I don't know which is more insulting or offensive quite frankly. Being banned from the Mark Thomas Info website forum, or the knowledge that I was banned by people working/posting to a forum and mailing list owned by a man supposedly working to ensure things like this don't happen (Mark Thomas). Hypothetically, one could easily draw the conclusion that he doesn't really care about anything, is a liar and only into activist campaigning for the glory of being seen to be on the side of fair play and the revenue gained from book sales. However, I still hold a fading hope that this is not the case, even though Mark Thomas has done nothing to counter-measure the damage some of his forum admin, forum members, mailing list contributors and friends did to me. Nor has he addressed why they found/thought their activities and comments were acceptable. It was in fact; bullying, censorship, cyber/hate criminality and most definitely a breach of my civil and human rights to continue to work as a writer online (a progression of my career as a published writer).

I am morally bound and responsible to state that Mark Thomas and his admin staff on the Mark Thomas Info forum and mailing list deserve to be revealed, because if they are not sincere activists and human rights campaigners opposed to censorship, then they are a wedge between real action against censorship, human rights violations and progress towards lasting change / equality / freedom of speech and the upholding of Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Mark Thomas, his forum admin team and anyone else who thinks they can are welcome to join Sensitize ©** and try to censor me or treat me like they did on the Mark Thomas Info forum and mailing list, but they will have to explain why they thought their actions either justifiable or legal to a much bigger crowd and support base than I believe they could ever muster.

Any attempt to have this post withdrawn or this community and its forums deleted will not only be affecting me, but the careers and livelihoods of many other published and respected working writers.

* I spoke out against these barbaric savages beating children and whoever that person is doing the voiceover and compared their hatred to the hatred they enforced on many people living in Northern Ireland during the Troubles. Please note, you may have to open a YouTube account and verify you are over 18 years old.

** By joining Sensitize you are stating you are 18 years old or over and have read our Guidelines page prior to joining.

Hyperlinks in this post are to;
http://www.markthomasinfo.com/
http://www.markthomasinfo.com/forum/log ... efault.asp
http://www.markthomasinfo.com/links/default.asp
http://irrepressible.info/?fragment=19
http://www.amnesty.org/
profile.php?mode=register

links are to;-
http://www.amnesty.ie/amnesty/live/iris ... page=15310
http://www.amnesty.ie/amnesty/live/iris ... page=15310


Very sincerely,
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Is Mark Thomas a Censor and Liar? Confused. Derry...

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:02 pm

Is Mark Thomas a Censor and Liar? Confused. Derry...

Mark Thomas in an article on the Indiemedia UK website wrote:Freedom of speech might not give us the right to
shout "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, but it does give
us the right to shout "Heard it!" during Hamlet's "to
be or not to be" soliloquy. As the political activist
Abbie Hoffman observed, freedom of speech is the right
to shout "Theatre!" in a crowded fire. And had he been
alive and present when Bush spoke through a bullhorn
in the rubble of the twin towers, he'd have had the
perfect moment in which to shout it.

Many may quote Voltaire, but what they really mean is:
"I vaguely agree with your values and will be prepared
to sign a petition and possibly wear a badge for your
right to say it."

Generally it is assumed that issues regarding freedom
of speech occur abroad. We might even be aware of the
odd case, like the comedians U Pa Pa Lay and U Lu Zaw
in Burma, jailed for five years in March 1996 for
performing satirical sketches. However, although the
nearest we get to the repression of comedians in this
country is the biannual removal of Jim Davidson's
driving licence, we are still an illiberal nation when
it comes to free speech.

The 1997 Gandalf trial in the UK received little
attention in the press and, subsequently, little
support outside the activist community. Three men were
charged with conspiracy to incite criminal damage
under the Criminal Justice Act. They were found guilty
and each was sentenced to three years. They served
four and a half months before being freed on appeal.
So what evidence did the Crown Prosecution Service
come up with? In an occasional magazine called Green
Anarchist, writers had reported on various acts of
civil disobedience

The prosecution argued that this kind of reporting
encouraged others to commit criminal damage. Such
logic, which insists that reporters of conflict or
disruption are to blame for further violence, can only
lead us to conclude that Rageh Omaar is to blame for
the invasion of Iraq.

In Britain, we rarely support free speech for
ideologies we do not agree with. The New Statesman (18
October) did offer some decent press coverage of the
latest assault on freedom of speech and press. This
involved the Indymedia website -the most significant
step taken in journalism since Rupert Murdoch moved
his printing plants to Wapping. The site is run by
volunteers and, for its content, it relies entirely on
contributions by ordinary people, the citizens of
whatevercountry where it is running. "Don't hate the
media, be it!" is its slogan. It challenges people to
tell their own stories and repont on events. One of
the best examples of Indymedia in action in the UK
came during last year's arms fair in Docklands when
up-to-the-minute reports, photos and footage provided
a running commentary on the protests taking place at
the fair.
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A very last resource

Postby Salvador Oria » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:25 pm

I've read the previous postings with interest... partial truths and wishful thinking cannot actually describe the dreadful operations performed by certain country rulers, their 'security' men, or by some of their supporting clique of beasts. :evil:

To my humble opinion, censorhip is the very last resource that coward, cruel or incompetent rulers, or a mixture of these heinous attributes, impose their societies' media to get away with government sins against democracy, once all other criteria proved useless, say keep VAT inspectors 'living' at the offender's premises; scrutinise the offenders' past life to disclose to public whatever findings are discovered; put a light to offenders' homes in the middle of one subzero winter night, preferably with its sleeping occupants inside or, as a last resource, physically eliminating by sword and mantle, or via a prepared 'accident', whatever remaining chunk of oppositon they may have, that had obviously passed unscathed all previous instances. When neither of the above prove useful, these rulers close the book and try with another book describing the deeds of a short-moustached German corporal of the late thirties and very early fourties who, apparently, had a fearful collection of easy recipes which he used to keep all German citizens at first, and later half the world's, under his high, bloodstained black patent leather boots.

We're used to watch the performance of these 'tactics' in Argentina, and it is perhaps the deep knowledge we've learnt about our rulers' foul play that 'my humble opinion' should I've rather given its true name, i.e. Dreadful Experience Of A Common Citizen.

Cheers :P
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Re: A very last resource

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:53 pm

Argie wrote:I've read the previous postings with interest... partial truths and wishful thinking cannot actually describe the dreadful operations performed by certain country rulers, their 'security' men, or by some of their supporting clique of beasts. :evil:


Thank you for taking the time out to respond Sal :) ...

I agree with your points on the rulers of countries, their 'security' staff/military machines and cliqué of supporters. For censorship to truly have an effect, it must be imposed by what would appear to any genuine opponent of a brutal school of thought/regime to be a force or wall of condecension and derision at the very least. Mayhem and murder always looming and controlled by the state. It would be an easy task then to keep up a continued censoring or hostile front. Any time anyone opposed to their policies/schools of thought/regime spoke out, the tireless and unending force or wall of contempt would move to counter-attack (if attack is the right terminology to use when describing anyone exercising freedom of speech).

Argie wrote:To my humble opinion, censorhip is the very last resource that coward, cruel or incompetent rulers, or a mixture of these heinous attributes, impose their societies' media to get away with government sins against democracy, once all other criteria proved useless,


That's debatable to a certain extent though Sal. Sometimes censorship can be the only device necessary when run in tandem with accounts of prior brutalities by a ruling force/military regime. Basically fear-mongering. Don't we see this on several television news channels daily? I'm not sure what things are like in Argentina where you live currently, but we are being herded towards sheer terror of anyone who may be an Islamic extremist or hold views contrary to those being projected by the ruling elite. If enough people believe they will suffer by opposing the 'state' and those 'governing' them and continually lying to them, or speak out in any way, military enforcement will become more and more commonplace. Media will cover more and more items where the ordinary everyday things of life become less and less important as we are all bombarded with security alerts and footage of 'our' militaries 'doing-a-fine-job' protecting us. What ends up playing out is a powerlessness and silent, weary population living under real and state run/sanctioned terrorism.

Argie wrote:say keep VAT inspectors 'living' at the offender's premises; scrutinise the offenders' past life to disclose to public whatever findings are discovered; put a light to offenders' homes in the middle of one subzero winter night, preferably with its sleeping occupants inside or, as a last resource, physically eliminating by sword and mantle, or via a prepared 'accident', whatever remaining chunk of oppositon they may have, that had obviously passed unscathed all previous instances. When neither of the above prove useful, these rulers close the book and try with another book describing the deeds of a short-moustached German corporal of the late thirties and very early fourties who, apparently, had a fearful collection of easy recipes which he used to keep all German citizens at first, and later half the world's, under his high, bloodstained black patent leather boots.


So many manouvres implimented to keep those without power; 'without power.' Our lives becoming more frequently lived either under the heel of our governments or the preposterous notion that they care about us. They don't and most of them also know that even their 'democratically elected' have careers that run for such a short period of time that they cram in as many exercises in control as they can, more in a bid to sop up the time and resources of whoever is next 'democratically elected.' Swings and roundabouts...

Argie wrote:We're used to watch the performance of these 'tactics' in Argentina, and it is perhaps the deep knowledge we've learnt about our rulers' foul play that 'my humble opinion' should I've rather given its true name, i.e. Dreadful Experience Of A Common Citizen.

Cheers :P


My point exactly Sal. Censorship is the ability of a government, its military machine and indeed if one reads the rest of this thread above, even supposedly oppositional media activists, campaigners and groups (probably on their payroles) so comfortable that to move and oppose any ruling elite properly or speak out for the 'common citizen' would be a pointless act to begin with. Thus furthering the censorship of entire populations of 'common citizens'/individuals.

Thanks dude :) ...
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Bloody Sunday

Postby Salvador Oria » Fri May 02, 2008 7:16 pm

Thanks Lugh,

BLOODY SUNDAY

As soon as you've read the title above you imagined what would my next move be, didn't you?

Was BS an act of censorhip? You should know beter than most... :(

Sorry to disturb you but I feel it was one of the fiercest acts to cut down with a public expression of discomfort.
"...my dreams were all my own; i accounted for them to nobody; they

were my refuge when annoyed - my dearest pleasure when free."

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Re: Bloody Sunday

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Fri May 02, 2008 8:10 pm

Argie wrote:Thanks Lugh,

BLOODY SUNDAY

As soon as you've read the title above you imagined what would my next move be, didn't you?

Was BS an act of censorhip? You should know beter than most... :(

Sorry to disturb you but I feel it was one of the fiercest acts to cut down with a public expression of discomfort.


Well, it was a definite censorship of the lives of the people murdered by the British army that day. A censorship of the families and friends of the victims too. They were never going to have good times or further memories to celebrate of those people who were shot. I would say post traumatic stress disorder and unending grief were what most of them faced. Then of course there is still the ongoing campaign for justice and truth about Bloody Sunday. Britain still has to openly admit and apologise / compensate all those affected. Until then there is the censorship brought about by a lack of faith in the British legal system.

Following the events of Bloody Sunday and the later years when I was young and growing up here there was also a more sinister or subliminal form of censorship. That of the silence of self-censorship. Frequently we had to 'mind our p's and q's' when in public. Many employers were from more affluent backgrounds and identified as 'British'. Being vocal against the British military or the RUC (the former sectarian police service of Northern Ireland) could have resulted in a loss of employment. Then of course there was always the very real risk that if we became vocal to the point of 'taking to the streets' there was the danger we would be shot at by the army or police. So, frustrations mounted and silence festered.

These days things have changed. There are more and more Irish employers in Northern Ireland. American companies like Seagate operate out of Derry, but sadly Raytheon are also here. Raytheon are a company who make software for the guidance systems of missiles. A while back some activists marched on Ratheon and gained access to the building. They have become known as the Raytheon 9. They held a siege and destroyed computers that may have contained the data to design / guide these missiles. The upshot of this was that the PSNI (Police Service of Northern Ireland) arrested and held them under the Prevention of Terrorism Act. I believe this charge was later reduced to criminal damage, but the Prevention of Terrorism Act too is a form of censorship in that it denies the arrested person the right to appeal for compensation or legal costs if proved innocent. It will be interesting to see how this one pans out and whether all charges are dropped. One of those arrested is a well known activist, campaigner, columnist, journalist, SWP (Socialist Workers Party) politician and writer; Eamonn McCann.

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http://www.raytheon9.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamonn_McCann
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Imagining Argentina / Madres de Plaza de Mayo...

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon May 05, 2008 12:07 am

I watched a brilliant 2003 movie directed by Christopher Hampton this weekend called; Imaging Argentina adapted from a novel by Lawrence Thornton, starring Antonio Banderas and Emma Thompson. I now have a fuller understanding of the nightmare visited upon your people between 1976 and 1983. I would really welcome any poetry, thoughts or writing you may have on this time in your history Sal.

In the film Emma Thompson plays Cecilia Rueda, a journalist who speaks out against many of the government's injustices being carried out on Argentinian people. As a result she becomes one of The Disappeared. She is taken in broad daylight from the home she shares with her daughter Teresa Rueda and husband Carlos Rueda (Banderas) a theatre owner/musician. She is interrogated, raped and further tortured by several soldiers 'guarding' her.

All the time she is away Carlos Rueda has visions of what she is enduring. He also has insight into the fate of many of the other Disappeared and gives their families and loved ones details on where they are, when they will return or indeed if they will return at all. Spies are sent to infiltrate the meetings where he shares these visions and gives hope. To further his torment his daughter is also taken and disappeared. There is a heart-breaking scene set in Plaza de Mayo, Buenos Aries as he marches with the Mothers of the Disappeared when he realises or sees what has happened to his daughter. His psychic gift or insight a metaphor of the 'truth' which will never be erased and will always be known in the minds of people who went through this.

In the end credits of Imagining Argentina there are totals (at 2003) of people both in Argentina and other countries where fascist governments and their paramilitary armed thugs/secret police/soldiers have taken or 'Disappeared' people. I considered the kidnapped victims currently being illegally detained in Guantanamo Bay under the Extraordinary Rendition program, the victims of Internment and H-Block in Northern Ireland's recent history under British military rule and all those who faced the horrors of the concentration camps run by the Nazis.

While composing this post I visited a few links in a bid to further understand what happened in Argentina;-

Project Disappeared
http://www.desaparecidos.org/arg/eng.html


The Vanished Gallery
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/


The Guardian (article by Bill Cormier in Buenos Aires on new DNA techniques to identify skeletons of disappeared people)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/ma ... =worldnews

BBC News: 'Disappeared' mass grave found in Argentina
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/713996.stm


All of these people are victims of censorship because the various governments of the world would rather deride, jail, murder, silence or take (disappear) them, their art, journalism and their voices, than comply with basic civil and human rights which embrace equality and freedom of speech for all.

In closing this post I would like to add a link to the song - Mothers of the Disappeared by U2 from their 1986/87 album; Joshua Tree (recently remastered and with bonus tracks; U2 - Joshua Tree - Deluxe Edition scheduled release date; 26th May, 2008). This particular video clip acknowledges the Madres de Plaza de Mayo and the Disappeared victims of Argentina. Mothers of the Disappeared is the closing track on Joshua Tree and was how I first became interested in the work of Amnesty International while living and working in London in 1987 to the present day.

Madres de Plaza de Mayo (set to the U2 song - Mothers of the Disappeared)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q16V2PCa3g


Hyperlinks in this post are to;
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0314197/
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Joshua-Tree-U2/ ... 356&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Joshua-Tree-U2/ ... 356&sr=1-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_of ... za_de_Mayo
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/content.asp?CategoryID=10893
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Hunger 2008. Film Directed by Steve McQueen.

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon May 19, 2008 5:00 pm

HUNGER 2008
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    There is a new film being screened at Cannes Film Festival this year called; Hunger. It is the story of the last few days and weeks of Irish Republican Hunger Striker Bobby Sands played by German/Irish actor Michael Fastbender.

    Steve McQueen who directed Hunger recalls (in an interview with the BBC) his early days growing up and how Bobby Sands became engrained on his memory and how he wanted to portray the realities of the Irish Republican / Nationalist Hunger Strikers. Hunger is being tipped for the prestigious award of Camera D'Or at this year's festival and it is believed it will cause quite a controversy when it goes on general release because of the nature of its sometimes brutal and unreserved storyline. To learn more about the Sands film premiere at Cannes and to watch an interview with the director; Steve McQueen about Hunger. Go to the BBC NEWS / Entertainment link directly beneath this paragraph:


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7406064.stm

    You can read an indepth review by David McKittrick of the film - Hunger and more about the real Bobby Sands if you follow the next link to the Independent news website:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 30215.html

    I can't wait for this film's release :wink: ...
Hyperlinks in this post are to:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986233/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1055413/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2588606/
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Taking Liberties. By Louis P. Burns aka Lugh © 2008.

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon May 19, 2008 6:31 pm

Taking Liberties
By Louis P. Burns aka Lugh © 2008. All rights reserved.

In post number 3 of this thread I wrote:


Lugh wrote:* I spoke out against these barbaric savages beating children and whoever that person is doing the voiceover and compared their hatred to the hatred they enforced on many people living in Northern Ireland during the Troubles. Please note, you may have to open a YouTube account and verify you are over 18 years old.

I'm now concerned that under sweeping changes in British/UK law rushed through today, that I may be guilty of the crime of discrimination towards British service personnel. Am I? If I addressed or argued with some bloke dressed in his military fatigues about the savage attack mentioned above. Could I be arrested?

Michael Evans, Defence Editor - Times Online wrote:legislation is also to be introduced to make it a criminal offence to discriminate against military personnel in Service dress or combat fatigues.

Source = http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 962535.ece

Please don't dismiss this out-of-hand. I'm serious. Are the British/UK government, the House of Lords and the Ministry of Defence (MoD) suggesting that if someone finds or picks fault in the armed services they could now either be fined or given a custodial prison sentence?

Isn't that a severe form of censorship and breach of people's freedom of speech. Isn't it also in violation of their liberty under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

The British/UK government, the Law Lords and the MoD are TAKING LIBERTIES..!
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Taking Liberties...

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon May 26, 2008 5:54 pm

Taking Liberties

^ Click title to watch Taking Liberties or click the next link:

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q ... tesearch=#
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Re: A very last resource

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:34 pm

Salvador Oria wrote:We're used to watch the performance of these 'tactics' in Argentina, and it is perhaps the deep knowledge we've learnt about our rulers' foul play that 'my humble opinion' should I've rather given its true name, i.e. Dreadful Experience Of A Common Citizen.

Cheers :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRzeCaJTWp4

any comments Salvador?

:wink:
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Re: Defining Censorship...

Postby Salvador Oria » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:23 pm

An insane, assasin, ex-police officer on one hand and a stupid clown on the other. He died as he deserved to die. No one, except his wife and children, will shed a tear for him.

The TV channel that put his suicide live on the air was sanctioned for doing so during a 'children protection' time of the day (07:00 to 22:00).

I don't think this could be regarded as undue censorship. The channel could have released the news - commenting it 'in off' - without showing the actual shocking images.
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Re: Defining Censorship...

Postby Louis P. Burns aka Lugh » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:02 pm

Salvador Oria wrote:An insane, assasin, ex-police officer on one hand and a stupid clown on the other. He died as he deserved to die. No one, except his wife and children, will shed a tear for him.

The TV channel that put his suicide live on the air was sanctioned for doing so during a 'children protection' time of the day (07:00 to 22:00).

I don't think this could be regarded as undue censorship. The channel could have released the news - commenting it 'in off' - without showing the actual shocking images.


I agree but, couldn't it be contested that all the victims still alive had a right to witness the only justice this parasite would ever truly face? Just my thoughts for what they're worth.
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